As it turns out, the mystic forge is actually the genie Zommoros. Strange new lifeform? Time for the asura to get investigating.*
The mystic forge serves three purposes:
As for now, you have two methods to get a precursor: you can loot it or obtain in the Mystic Forge. In the second case you have to join four rare/exotic weapons of the same type (e.g. 4x staff if you want to get The Legend) with with required level 76-80 and have a luck.
- Crafting via recipes. Placing specific combinations of items into the forge will yield a guaranteed result. This includes mystic weapons, some of the coolest exoticskins in-game, and legendaries. Unfortunately, Zommoros doesn't list recipes for the forge. They have to be discovered / looked-up on third-party websites (the wiki).
- Upgrades of materials. Common, fine, and rare crafting materials can be promoted into a smaller number of higher tier materials [source].
- Gambling. Placing four items into the mystic forge (of the same quality) will give one higher-level item, with chance to improve its rarity.
Fortunately, developer posts have noted that the mystic forge isn't affected by either diminishing returns or magic find. This makes examining these mechanics considerably easier.
Level Up!
Placing four items into the mystic forge will yield a higher-level item. How many levels higher?
On average**, the resulting items were 7 levels higher than the input items.
The forge seems to use average item level for determining upgrades. Four same-level (even identical items) had the same average level upgrade as four items of various levels, but the same average item level.
The pattern is the same regardless of input item rarity or level (usual stats-nerds tests applied).
Quality Nice.
Both comments on reddit and the GW2 wiki list a roughly 20% chance of upgrading rarity using the mystic forge. Sounds testable.
While four greens have an approximately 20% chance of yielding yellows, four blues have a 33% chance of yielding a green. (Usual stat nerd tests applied.) While they're included in the plot, since there are no yellow weapons below level 30, green weapons below level 20 have no observed chance of becoming yellow-quality weapons. I therefore excluded them from this analysis.
Take the increased chance of upgrades from blues with a grain of salt. While it is exceptionally unlikely I observed this difference from chance alone, most sources list the 20% upgrade rate as gospel.
- Mystic forge is gambling and you risk loosing everything (and there is actually a good change you will).
- Almost all gambling companies offer new customer a first casino deposit bonus. These bonuses are handed out to new customers making a first deposit in the casino section. At some places you can get casino deposit bonuses on more than just Gw2 Mystic Forge Precursor Gambling your first deposit, some casinos will give you deposit bonuses all the.
Level Up!
Placing four items into the mystic forge will yield a higher-level item. How many levels higher?
On average**, the resulting items were 7 levels higher than the input items.
The forge seems to use average item level for determining upgrades. Four same-level (even identical items) had the same average level upgrade as four items of various levels, but the same average item level.
The pattern is the same regardless of input item rarity or level (usual stats-nerds tests applied).
Quality Nice.
Both comments on reddit and the GW2 wiki list a roughly 20% chance of upgrading rarity using the mystic forge. Sounds testable.
While four greens have an approximately 20% chance of yielding yellows, four blues have a 33% chance of yielding a green. (Usual stat nerd tests applied.) While they're included in the plot, since there are no yellow weapons below level 30, green weapons below level 20 have no observed chance of becoming yellow-quality weapons. I therefore excluded them from this analysis.
Take the increased chance of upgrades from blues with a grain of salt. While it is exceptionally unlikely I observed this difference from chance alone, most sources list the 20% upgrade rate as gospel.
Note: the drop-off in level 70+ greens is simply because I didn't record much data there. (Its expensive!)
A few notes on the mystic forge:
A few notes on the mystic forge:
As for now, you have two methods to get a precursor: you can loot it or obtain in the Mystic Forge. In the second case you have to join four rare/exotic weapons of the same type (e.g. 4x staff if you want to get The Legend) with with required level 76-80 and have a luck.
- Crafting via recipes. Placing specific combinations of items into the forge will yield a guaranteed result. This includes mystic weapons, some of the coolest exoticskins in-game, and legendaries. Unfortunately, Zommoros doesn't list recipes for the forge. They have to be discovered / looked-up on third-party websites (the wiki).
- Upgrades of materials. Common, fine, and rare crafting materials can be promoted into a smaller number of higher tier materials [source].
- Gambling. Placing four items into the mystic forge (of the same quality) will give one higher-level item, with chance to improve its rarity.
- Mystic forge is gambling and you risk loosing everything (and there is actually a good change you will).
- Almost all gambling companies offer new customer a first casino deposit bonus. These bonuses are handed out to new customers making a first deposit in the casino section. At some places you can get casino deposit bonuses on more than just Gw2 Mystic Forge Precursor Gambling your first deposit, some casinos will give you deposit bonuses all the.
Level Up!
Placing four items into the mystic forge will yield a higher-level item. How many levels higher?
On average**, the resulting items were 7 levels higher than the input items.
The forge seems to use average item level for determining upgrades. Four same-level (even identical items) had the same average level upgrade as four items of various levels, but the same average item level.
The pattern is the same regardless of input item rarity or level (usual stats-nerds tests applied).
Quality Nice.
Both comments on reddit and the GW2 wiki list a roughly 20% chance of upgrading rarity using the mystic forge. Sounds testable.
While four greens have an approximately 20% chance of yielding yellows, four blues have a 33% chance of yielding a green. (Usual stat nerd tests applied.) While they're included in the plot, since there are no yellow weapons below level 30, green weapons below level 20 have no observed chance of becoming yellow-quality weapons. I therefore excluded them from this analysis.
Take the increased chance of upgrades from blues with a grain of salt. While it is exceptionally unlikely I observed this difference from chance alone, most sources list the 20% upgrade rate as gospel.
Note: the drop-off in level 70+ greens is simply because I didn't record much data there. (Its expensive!)
A few notes on the mystic forge:
- Kamil234 examined mystic forge upgrades with dyes. I haven't tried it out, but he recorded the results here.
- Agronaute threw 1400 rares into the mystic forge and got 71 exotics back (with no precursor) - a 20% quality upgrade rate. More here.
- NonTrivialPursuit forged 50 minis.
- Sub-75 average item level yellows no longer have a chance to yield precursors.
Gw2 Mystic Forge Researcher
*Now 100% more ethical. Sorry Malomedies.
Gw2 Mystic Forge Stone
**Well, I should say, on median. I - very rarely - obtained dramatically higher level items (up to 50 levels higher than the inputs). I'm guessing these are bugs. The items have no vendor value, and are soulbound on acquire. It looks like the item level of the result was just miscoded. Therefore, I excluded these from the analysis. More data required =D.Gw2 Mystic Forge Precursor Gambling Casinos
Hello I am new and I wanted to share a method I used in the past when I played gw2 to 'farm' precursors. This is a way to guarantee over time you will get a precursor.
What you need to do is save up dungeon tokens. Dungeon tokens are awarded for you guessed right, dungeons! But you can also get from doing pvp reward tracks if you like to do pvp. Be sure to set the pvp reward track to a dungeon reward path.
The dungeon pvp reward tracks give boxes that give level 80 exotic weapons, as well as dungeon tokens. Choose the same weapon type each time. For say you want to get greatsword 2h precursor (name dusk) get greatswords. Save collected greatswords, and over time you will have many swords as well as dungeon tokens which are awarded for pvp reward tracks now.
The weapon boxes from the reward track give 80 exotic weapon type of your choice, and you ALSO get dungeon tokens as a reward along the pvp reward tracks. This allows you to get a LOT of 80 exotic weapons to throw in the mystic forge.
4 weapons are needed to have a roll in the mystic forge for a precursor. By saving up from pvp reward tracks, you will have 'free' weapons, plus plenty of dungeon tokens. Use the dungeon tokens in Lions Arch to buy weapons from dungeon vendors. Weapons are between 290-390 tokens ea.
I cannot confirm this, but it is my believe that dungeon weapons (purchased with tokens) have a higher precursor chance than others. This is a great way to make wealth over time. Even a pure pvper can eventually get a 'free' precursor this way by playing only pvp. I also believe account /age (play time) factors into this because I got a precursor very quickly trying this method on an old account (is how I discovered it).
Since then I have gotten many precursors over time with this method. They sell for good amount $50-100 USD depending on one you get. I hope this can help someone make gold over time. It not too much an 'exploit', more so a smart method to get rich from passive pvp play.
BTW this is also a good method for BOTTING but botting in gw2 is not too simple. Maybe I will write about this later on.
